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Dean's avatar

I don't think bringing employess in house will reduce costs. Not if it means that they instantly come under the union umbrella complete with benefits and pensions. Overpaid short term outsourcing is probably a bargain by comparison.

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David Clinton's avatar

Good point.

Of course, I'm just guessing that that's what's generating the huge contract values.

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Liam Gee's avatar

Long Live the Data Geeks, I aspire to be, but alas I fall short of the mental athleticism required...

Go Sports! (and by Sports, I obviously mean what you do).

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David Clinton's avatar

Sadly, this particular sport doesn't require aerobic exercise.

But they do say "the geek shall inherit the earth" (or something like similar).

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Liam Gee's avatar

...lol, nice!

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Britannicus's avatar

No mention of overseas services on the CCC website:

“Security services:

RECEPTION AND CONCIERGE Screen visitors as they enter and exit your facility, screen and direct incoming calls, watch video monitors, and operate and respond to alarm and security systems.

SECURITY GUARDS Protect confidential areas and equipment within your facility.

PARKING ATTENDANTS Check all vehicles entering and exiting parking areas for identification and access permits.

PATROL AND MOBILE PATROL Officers search premises and surrounding grounds for any suspicious persons, cars and materials, and conduct regular security and fire alarm checks.

Many Commissionaires are veterans of the Canadian Armed Forces and the RCMP, with established leadership, skills and expertise. Mandatory, ongoing training ensures you receive the highest level of security services from our professionals.”

Probably a sole source contract; we all know how those billings can expand.

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Britannicus's avatar

The RCMP and the DND would argue that the hiring of the CCC to handle physical security frees up highly trained police and military personnel from manning gatehouses and reception desks and patrolling base perimeters, leaving them to perform the primary duties for which they have been prepared. Heaven knows that those organizations are chronically shorthanded as it is.

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David Clinton's avatar

I was wondering if it was something like that. After all, the Commissionaires - as vets - are probably just as highly trained. But are they allowed to be armed for some postings?

I also noticed that Global Affairs Canada was another huge Commissionaires customer - which suggests that Commissionaires are guarding our embassies, too. That's something for which I believe the Americans use Marines.

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Britannicus's avatar

Commissionaires are not armed. For Global Affairs they’re looking after government buildings and properties, and performing some administrative tasks, in Canada. The Military Police provide armed security at some embassies around the world.

Coincidentally my father, when he retired from the British Army, then served as a civilian, unarmed, security officer at British embassies. His Canadian counterparts in those days (the ‘60s through the ‘80s) were also retired servicemen but I believe that the model has now changed.

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David Clinton's avatar

If Commissionaires working for GAC are mostly just looking after GAC property in Canada, the $70,221,964 in billables since 2020 feels a bit high. How many buildings does GAC even have in Canada?

By the way, I'm having WAY too much fun with this data! :)

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